Friday, February 26, 2010
Strong Safeites should not be able to play DE
I notice a recent trend to put Safeties on the defensive line to provide more speed in the pass. This technique is actually quite effective. The problem is that in real life these 215 pound safeties would get owned in real life by the much bigger and stronger Offensive linemen. The offensive line needs to vertical pass set and engage the Safety, when contact occurs there needs to see a significant slow down and neutralization for the smaller defensive player.
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yeah, i've playing guys that put a safety at DT and just use him as user defender over the middle and run guess the middle. i use the triple option and the outside slant on the run guess has made it all but unstoppable.
ReplyDeleteim quilty of using LBs and FS and SS at dif positions. i run a 3-3-5 stack. i replace my OLB with FS. move a fast LB to the side the my slower DE would be at and put a back up DE at DT so i can qb spy him if he breaks the pass rush. here's what you have to consider though....putting a FS at LB will work fine b/c their tackle doesn't change. when you put a SS there, a lot of times the QB will just shed the tackle. the same thing happens when you get a LB at DE. their tackle drops like 20 pts. it might cost you a few big plays where they shed the tackle but it will get a lot of pics if you are hitting the qb while throwing or forcing him to throw quickly.
craw i know you like OH ST and i play with them some running the option but i think oh st has the best D on the game. hard hitting safeties, tall corners. fast DE, and a lot of back up safties.
give you an idea of how my 3-3-5 would look with them is
DE-gibson
DE- williams
DT1- back up De with 83 spd
DT2- RLB/LLB 87 spd (this is if i swap to a dime and and i spy him
LOLB- starting FS
MLB- leave the starter (i always blitz him and LBs get through the line better
ROLB-back up FS
FS-back up SS
SS1-starter
SS2-CB 3rd on depth chart (this is the slot corner on the left side)
as you can see that a hell of a lot of speed without sacrificing any tackle ability. so what if their awarness is lower at some spots. i havent noticed anything that makes that big of a difference.
any team with fast DE and lots of extra safties and a good 3rd CB lets you run this.
also when swapping to dime or qrts you want to right click and make your ROLB the MLB.
some say its chz but id rather chz and win
I think if you cheese that much your whole defense should lose about 50 tackling, you wanna know why? because that is cheap ass shit. speed should not allow you to cover the whole field and make easy tackles.
ReplyDeleteI could totally see maybe putting A safety (who is big hitter like Taylor Mays) at an OLB position, but changing your whole defense just for speed is straight up cheese. that is like the kids who only recruit speed and they'll have 60 overall WRs and RBs with 95+ speed, yet they break tackles and catch anything thrown towards them.
I know everyone in this game who is good cheeses in some way, but to rely on speed is down right cheesin'.
That's how they play though. Even putting WR's in at QB. No football strategy, just cheesin'
ReplyDeletecheeeeze
ReplyDeleteis what it is fellas....better to shit one someone than be shit on by them...its not different than someone playing offense with texas and putting back up wr with 95 speed at running back and playing with conservative run and you get no fmbles. or people putting wr and rb at TE. you gotta do what you have to adjust to them. atleast this way you can run a normal defense and not qtrs the whole time. i've been playing people who put ss at DT and pull them out as user controlers over the middle of the field and run guess out of qtrs. no one feels sorry for you when they beat the shit out of you...
ReplyDeleteand nobody was complaining when McGwire hit 70 home runs either
ReplyDeletei still agree with craw though, once a safety is engaged with a huge offensive linemen he should be either pancaked or slowed down significantly like he would be in reality... maybe he is quick enough to get right by him based on speed but if an OT gets his giant hands on a defensive SS in reality 95% of time that safety is getting to the QB whereas in the game the weak SS will shed the block almost as easy as an average DE
ReplyDeletei still agree with craw though, once an offensive lineman is engaged with a SS he should be pancaked or slowed down significantly like in reality... granted some SS can run right past an OT based on quickness and speed but once that OT gets his huge hands on a weak SS 99% of the time he won't get to the QB but in NCAA the SS's manage to shed the block the same way an average DE would
ReplyDeletei agree
ReplyDeletethanks for the awesome feedback
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